![]() It could be a very slight problem with your midi controller's response or something else.ġ. Pianoshrek2: If you can, try Pianoteq on a totally different system, and preferably one on which it is already functioning to the owner's satisfaction. Possibly a piano controller (a piano is a percussion instrument, after all) could incorporate a similar scheme though I'm not sure how it would be different from simply altering velocity settings. This recreates the "immediate" response that percussionists are accustomed to. *quantum mechanics theory might hold an exception.Īside: There is a controller -possibly discontinued- for marimba/percussionists called the Marimba Lumina which uses proximity sensors in the heads of mallets to trigger the MIDI response prior to actual contactor with the striking "pad" or surface. That said, there is no substitute for the acoustic instrument and you may never be satisfied with even highly reasonable facsimiles. There are plenty of accomplished pianists who use Pianoteq and other MIDI controlled instruments without difficulty. Maybe with a different velocity response, either from your keyboard settings or from within Pianoteq, you may not have the same perceived difficulty. But I have a feeling that it is your keyboard controller where you are "feeling" the difference. There are a few scattered experiments on the web, but I admit I haven't found a definitive study. As far as detecting anything less than 5ms of "actual" latency -I sincerely doubt that humans have that capability. ![]() The latency numbers that appear in either Pianoteq or your audio card's interface do not represent the actual time from finger to ear -they are a calculated guestimation. There is no such thing as zero latency* only perceived zero latency. "Real" latency could only be measured using a separate recording device that could record the output of Pianoteq or your acoustic piano and compare that to an acoustic sound made by the key at the bottom of its throw by examining the waveform in an audio editor. But is this real latency from key to the speakers or headphones?. The best latency I can get in Pianoteq is 0.7 ms with some crackles (64 samples) and 1.3 ms with nice sound (128 samples) and still can hear/feel the difference compared the grand piano which is next to me - (for example 5 ms is really huge difference for me). At this time I cannot imagine I'm able to create a professional recording with this issue -( ![]() If you are in the middle of the orchestra, sometimes the sounds is quite strange, because of latency.I know that, I feel that :-)Īnyway my colleague and me can feel the latency and I really don't know how to fix it, cause I'm big fan of Pianoteq. If you've got good and same feeling the sound is all together.Of course the symhopny orchestra is also playig with the feeling and that's why a conductor is there. Never :-) It is about same feeling of the music and rhythm also (sometimes it is about visual sense). To Glenm NK: it is nice to know these calculations but when you play with a group on stage you never wait for the sound from other play-mates. Maybe I should write that I'm able to feel when the hammer hit the string (and it doesn't matter if this is because of real physical contact or because of starting vibration). So what we are wating for, is the hit and this is not only about to start to touch/hit the key (of course with the playing). To guillaume: I'm not familiar with the physics also :-) but anyway, is that really only about when the finger touches the key to when the strings starts moving ? What we exactly feel is the hit to the string and not only starting touch the key. My piano fellow (he is also trained at Academy of Performing Arts) can identify the difference immediately also. When I play the instrument and PianoTeq together, it is very very difficult to hear there is some difference in the sound (maybe that's because of the sounds are merged) but in discant part of the piano I can hear the difference very well!!! Try that if you can hear that also :-)Īnyway if I play the Pianoteq individually the difference is there. I can immediately identify when I'm playing the Pianoteq and not the internal sound from the original instrument or the grand one. What I only feel the sound is later comparing my acoustic piano. ![]() But is this real latency from key to the speakers or headphones?īTW I've got absolute pitch (which is not about the latency :-) The best latency I can get in Pianoteq is 0.7 ms with some crackles (64 samples) and 1.3 ms with nice sound (128 samples) and still can hear/feel the difference compared the grand piano which is next to me - (for example 5 ms is really huge difference for me). I'm not a technical based guy, but everything was done as Sigasa wrote. ![]()
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